Do you have and use any virtual reality headsets?
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Oculus was of interest (Score:4, Insightful)
Oculus was of interest until Facebook grabbed them.
Re:Oculus was of interest (Score:4, Informative)
Ditto. I have a 1st gen Oculus but with Facebook buying them and them dropping support for Linux and macOS I'm not interested in their Quest.
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Correct.
The first time I heard Facebook would buy Oculus, I knew it would go to shit. And it did.
Regarding VR in general: In my case, it was a wait-and-see thing. VR developed slowly, and there are now quite a few games I would play in VR. However, right now, the price/entertainment ratio for a VR solution pushed it way down on my priority list.
I'm still looking at prices every now and then, and if I were to buy one right now, I'd buy the HTC Vive Pro 2 (full kit, not just the headset).
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Can you use it without having to log in to Facebook?
Does it work if Facebook is down?
The answer to both of the above is "no".
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Yeah I've been following them since the early stages when John Carmack talked about it at QuakeCon IIRC. The moment Facebook announced the deal, it was enough to kill of any interest. And then Luckey announcing that the price is going to be in the ballpark of original estimate of $300 only to turn out to be over $600 was the final nail in the coffin.
Instead I got a Samsung Odyssey WMR headset. It's not the best in any specific category but works pretty well for me. And it was like $200 so I don't regret buy
Re: Oculus was of interest (Score:1)
I donâ(TM)t get it. The Quest 2 is exactly $300.00, and itâ(TM)s by far the best headset at that value, and competitive at higher price points even.
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Oculus (Score:3)
There are a lot of good games for Oculus now. Even Tetris is amazingly engaging.
Re:Oculus (Score:4, Funny)
I tried Tetris in reality. It sucked. The blocks were too hard to rotate.
Oculus Go (Score:3)
I have the first Oculus Go. I don't play games and rarely use it. I mainly bought it for Google Earth VR and somehow thought I could read books while lying down on the bed. Obviously, didn't do my reasearch. I bought the wander earth VR app, but had to put it away because it turned out to be such a battery guzzler. Now my headset is an expensive paper weight.
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I hardly ever used my Go either. Its usage scenarios were very limited. I wouldn't really compare it to the Quest 2, though. At least not in any other sense than as nascent tech versus mature tech. I get that Facebook puts people off, but if ignoring that then the Quest 2 is a brilliant piece of tech for the price and the first VR device I would recommend to just about anyone with even a remote interest in VR (with the caveat of "if you don't mind Facebook").
I would definitely not recommend any VR device fo
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Immersion (Score:2)
I prefer not to be totally immersed.
I was heavily interested in VR tech research when I was young, However, I formed the opinion that there was much potential for using the tech for evil in ways that could be detrimental to human society, so I chose to get out of VR and keep my inventions to myself.
In recent times, that evil has shown itself in the form of Meta-sta-face.
Cy-Visor (Score:1)
Missing Option (Score:3)
I took the blue pill. No headgear needed.
It's VR all the way down.
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It maybe VR all the way down, but is it VR all the way up?
See Greg Egan's book Diaspora.
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During naps, when I realize I am in a dream and it is an unpleasant one, I consciously attempt to awaken by opening my eyes and getting out of bed. Once in a while, I notice that I am still only dreaming that I have awakened, and must repeat the effort. I have been at least five levels deep a few times - except that maybe right now I'm still dreaming - I can't tell for certain.
In 2016 I had open-heart surgery and they put me under anesthetics. When they revived me, Trump had been elected president. I ca
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Indeed. There seems to be no escape from this time-line reality without AR headgear (or a my-pillow).
So another missing option: All I need is my-pillow to tell me what's real.
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Cowboy Neal reads aloud to me the text of my Infocom games.
Re: Missing Option (Score:1)
VR is here (Score:5, Interesting)
Is it perfectly photorealistic? No, of course not. Neither are even the best games available on a $2k PC gaming rig. However, 6DOF is incredible, and the ability to get a physical workout is a much needed innovation in gaming. The immersiveness is also every bit as breathtaking as I'd hoped for over the decades. I honestly don't get the haters aside from those who have motion sickness issues, and most of those are resolved with acclimation or will be resolved with better hardware in the future.
Re: VR is here (Score:1)
Ya and if you had the chance to try it back in the 80s you would have been blown away at the jump in quality of the 90's, and the 00's
Its like when I bought a kia, someone told me they would never buy an older one but now they are good 15 year s later I say I will never buy another kia and often the response is but they are good now
Same with VR it's good now which to means its not all that different its just gotten better at hiding it
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Ya and if you had the chance to try it back in the 80s you would have been blown away at the jump in quality of the 90's, and the 00's
I disagree. It's more a case of 80s: This is crap. 90s: This is still crap. 00s: Still crap. 10s: Wait, what, this is it, boys!
It's less a case of incremental improvement and more like the hop from blood letting as medicine to sterilized operating theatres. In that one did nothing it really claimed to do, while the other actually does. VR did not get "better", it went from "hey, if only we had the tech this idea could actually work" to "this actually works now".
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no its still crap strapping a heavy ass thing to your face just so you can experiance stereoscopic vision with a little movement just to watch a roller coaster video or play call of dookie is crap and its a fad no one is pushing except for maybe facebook. Look around boyZ its its last gen consoles version of motion control
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So, you tried Gear VR 5+ years ago and wasn't impressed. I don't blame you. But that's not where the tech is today.
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Neither are even the best games available on a $2k PC gaming rig.
Ahem... a $2K PC is not a "gaming rig". A decent GPU at current prices is 70% of that amount. Therefore, "best games available on a $2K PC" doesn't mean much.
Re: VR is here (Score:2)
Top of the line GPU is not the same as "a decent GPU".
You can get a decent GPU for ~500.
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For low values of "decent", maybe.
I wouldn't buy a 1060 for $500, but whatever.
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Neither, but a 1660 Super can be had for that price, and they're decent.
Valve Index (Score:3)
I sat in on a brainstorming work meeting on using HMDs on the production line and all I could think was: hell no. It's uncomfortable and sweaty enough as it is, you couldn't pay me enough to strap a pound of heat-generating, screendoor weight to my face all day. My neck hurts at even the idea, and I'm not a skinny man.
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I got it wanting to use it for sim racing. Unfortunately every time I hit the brake pedal I want to vomit.
My daughter uses it mainly for VR Chat and Beat Sabre.
Reverb G2 (Score:1)
Quest 2 and Valve Index (Score:2)
Virtual Research Systems VR4 (Score:2)
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Linux support ? (Score:3)
II assume these vr thingys are only for windows users?
The idea of ar/vr is ok but sword art online nervegear tech is way more immersive.
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PSVR + Resident Evil7 Biohazard (Score:1)
Google Cardboard (Score:1)
I'm surprised no-one else has mentioned this paragon of virtual excellence!
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I would love to experance VR but. (Score:2)
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Re: I would love to experance VR but. (Score:2)
You don't need depth perception for VR. Things like head tracking will still work. You'll get the sensation of "being there" through parallax and movement.
Re: I would love to experance VR but. (Score:2)
Thanks for your service and sacrifice.
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Being the proud owner of only a single eyeball precludes me. If you ask why am I proud of it I lost it in the coast guard while saving a life.
VR is not about 3D it is about being somewhere else. IRL stereoscopic vision is crap anyway only works a few meters then binocular vision is worthless. Most of the other depth queues still work in VR even with one eye closed.
Remember the first time I put on an HMD... looked at the image on the screen and even then I still didn't get it. Was like wow these screens look much bigger than I expected them to be.
Still had no clue until I looked down and noticed the smoke on the floor then turned around and real
Re: I would love to experance VR but. (Score:2)
I am grateful for your saving that life and for your service. Societies are built by lives like your's.
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Are you also not experiencing R? Unless the answer is no, you can still experience VR.
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Why is the above -1? that is a wonderful comment and exactly the perspective i was looking for when I read the parent. (pun not(?) intended)
Re: I would love to experance VR but. (Score:1)
The Russian/ CCP stooge accounts infesting this place probably mistakenly modded it down as they got confused and thought the post wasn't pro Dear Leader enough.
htc vive (Score:1)
Oculus Go for Porn (Score:1)
I only use Skybox for porn and that's literally it. I deleted my FB account so I'm very glad Occulus dropped that requirement. It doesn't seem like there's an alt OS, but if there's a Lineage port or something that can play 3D/side-by-side 180/360 videos, I'd flash it immediately.
Oculus Rift (Score:2)
I lost interest when they said they wanted to own anything you create with thing.
I don't know if that made it into their EULA, but that's the wrong attitude.
Corpus (Score:4, Interesting)
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Yeah, but you don't got Beat Saber
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PlayStation VR (Score:2)
It helps that I never get motion sickness, for some people VR is basically unusable.
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That's me --- i can last about 15 minutes in VR, and then i need to lay down for an hour. I have a PlayStation VR, and it's the coolest thing i own that i never use
Foveation and eye tracking (Score:1)
Great experience! (Score:1)
VR? (Score:1)
HTC Vive (Score:2)
I have an original HTC Vive. I found that I couldn't wear the goddamned thing because of my glasses. Even with the lenses pushed out as far as they could go, it wasn't happening.
I can't wear contacts, so my take-away is that VR systems aren't for me.
Re: HTC Vive (Score:2)
There are drugs for presbyopia now if that's the issue. They are amazing
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Rift (Score:2)
There is an Oculus rift connected to my daughter's PC. I spent hours in the ISS sim in it, but now it's idle.
Either the resolution or the optics makes it difficult for me to use for protracted periods. I suspect I need glasses.
Of course not. FB lies to me in 2D... (Score:1)
PIMAX (Score:1)
Rift (Score:2)
I own a Oculus but never use it. (Score:1)
HTC Vive (Score:2)
Too heavy, too expensive, too low resolution (Score:2)
Why would I risk my health and throw away my money on a product that is nowhere near ready for general adoption? Let alone the lack of quality content.
Yes,Oculus quest 2 (Score:1)
VirtualBoy, kickin it with Wario (Score:2)
All other VR is for absolute losers.
Interested, but waiting... (Score:2)
I've read about the support for many large virtual screens - which would then be at a distance, instead of "in your face". It sounds very enticing, but the software seems to still be very fragile. Plus, the headsets are still big and heavy - it's hard to imagine wearing one for hours on end.
I'm very interested in working purely in VR, especially for technical work. However, it looks like waiting is still the best option. Meta will throw masses of money at this field. As much as I dislike Facebook, this mo
Vive (Score:2)
Oculus Quest 2 (Score:2)
I've used a variety of VR headsets that other people had, but I ended up getting an Oculus Quest 2 because it didn't need any external sensors set up, no PC, and has a number of Star Wars games I enjoy.
II've not used it for a while but I think the system is really well made. I too am annoyed with the Facebook connection, but such is the price of technology these days.
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I have a strong dislike for the Facebook requirement as well. But, damn, it's a great device. It's pretty much a childhood dream come true. With the ability to pair it wirelessly to a computer for the extra horsepower that provides, the only real drawback is the Facebook thing.
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But, damn, it's a great device. It's pretty much a childhood dream come true.
I totally agree; it works really well even without being paired and as a result is the first VR device I think of as usable.
All of the other ones, even the PSVR (which I also own) require WAY too much setup.
Oculus CV1 (Score:2)
Ordered on day 1. Software stack for it is now several years old and completely firewalled from Facebook. It will never be updated.
Still use it from time to time... VR is a lot of fun. Just wish the HMD ecosystem thing would have died off by now. No reason for HMDs to be tied to facefuck, steam or windows. Hopefully with OpenXR things improve.
Active GOOG Coin is the one which you are looking. (Score:1)
HTC VIVE - Gaming (Score:1)
Got my Index (Score:2)
and played through Alyx in the early weeks of the pandemic. I had the original Vive before, the Index is a big step up. I've had a few "VR parties" and played stuff like Beat Saber or Fruit Ninja, but that's most fun with a group and I go months not touching the headset otherwise. Having to clear the room of furniture is a bit annoying; even though I designed my home office with VR in mind, stuff creeps in and right now the center of the room is an art studio.
Content creator woes (Score:1)
I've had a Valve Index for a couple years now. Haven't found anything better.
It's not something you can really do for more than an hour or two at a time, but there are still scenarios in some games like Half Life Alyx and Boneworks that get my heart rate going. I really think that with a few more die shrinks and improvements to screen technologies they're going to start catching on in a big way.
My main complaint at this point, however, is the lack of support for VR for content creators.
As an independent CG
DayDream (Score:2)
Donald Trump VR (Score:2)
It talks too much and sets itself on fire.
I should have gone with the Cowboy Neal VR headset instead.
Oculus Rift S (Score:1)
Using a Rift CV1 (Score:1)
I'll occasionally fire up a game of Beat Saber, or Moss; I've dabbled with Fallout 4 VR but didn't really find it particularly playable, but the killer app for me is defin
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There's no arguing what something is worth to _you_. But, I can't think of any reason for someone to spend £150 on a CV1 when they can get a used Quest 1 for less (unless they're a collector, I suppose; the CV1 should carry more historical significance down the line). The Quest 1 is a much more versatile device, with greatly improved image quality. Although, if asked, my recommendation would be an exceptionally strong "spend a few months saving up money for the Quest 2". I own all three devices and th
Virtual Reality Soccer Table (Score:2)
I have done the large part of the engineering of the Koliseum soccer table. It allow up to 4 players, each with a headset, to play a common soccer football game with real mechanical rods that act like on a regular soccer table. Missing players are replaced by robots. Each rods have a handle with buttons that allow specials features like detaching the player from the rod. The game use the virtual reality to bring effects and surprises impossible to realize in the real world.
Cowboy Neal VR (Score:2)
The price was too good (Score:2)
I had wanted to get VR for a long time, and a while ago was there a deal on the Oculus Quest 2 that was too good to pass up (price-wise, that is).
I hate the fact that it needs to be connected to facebook to work, but not needing a beast of a PC and being tethered to that via a cable outweighed the fb-issue for me. My son in law had one with his gaming PC, but it was way beyond what I wanted to spend on something like that. It was great fun though.
That said, there are a few games that are fun and even gives
avegant Glyph (Score:1)
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CowboyNeal stole it.